These are the details for tonights Hope not Hate meeting in Preston if anybody fancies going along. Maybe you could contact Cllr Matthew Brown (Labour) who booked the meeting. His details are :
Preston City Council Town Hall Lancaster Road Preston PR1 2RL
Tel: 07748 846140
Email: cllr.m.brown@preston.gov.uk
Commitee membership
Cabinet (Member) Community Engagement and Inclusion Portfolio (Chairman)
How come we are supposedly fighting Al Qaida in Afghanistan, yet we are ARMING Al Qaida in Syria? Cameron is telling us we have to fight in all these hell hole countries to “keep Britain safe” but we aren’t even safe on British streets and they are doing F… ALL about that. Don’t believe their shite. They are using our soldiers as cannon fodder.
They deployed 1200 police to guard Mosques, but none to guard our Barracks. Shows you where their priorities lay.
NFSE
Becki
This is the fella who went on the telly to say how hes a convert to Islam and that he wants to bomb people with anthrax. Apparantly he works going round schools teaching about Islam. You couldn’t make it up NFSE Zoe
Next week at the Burnley demo we will be doing a collection for Toni Preston/Toni Angels kids. Toni was a good friend to a lot of us and was a very well known girl that we sadly lost last year. There will also be a fundraiser for the same cause in The Adelphi pub in Blackburn that will start at 1pm next Saturday if anybody wants to go along then feel free. I and others will be heading there after the demo in Burnley and if anybody wants to come along you are more than welcome to.
Reblogged by Becki
NFSE
4:28pm Tuesday 23rd April 2013 in News
Teenager raped in Bolton town centreA TEENAGE girl was raped in Bolton town centre.
Now police have released a CCTV image of a man they want to speak to about the attack.
At about 4am on Sunday, April 21, an 18-year-old girl was approached by a man in Lush nightclub in Bradshawgate, police said.
He led her outside to an alleyway behind the club where he raped her.
The rapist is a thin, 6ft 2in-tall , white man with broad shoulders.
He is believed to be in his mid 20s and has dark hair and a pale complexion.
He was wearing a coloured t-shirt and dark trousers and is not believed to be English speaking.
Det Insp Damian Simpson, from the police’s serious sexual offences unit, said: “We have launched a full investigation to find out the circumstances surrounding this incident and we are providing support to the victim.
“It would have been very busy in the area that night. We would urge anyone who recognises the man in the picture or saw anything that night to get in touch with police.
“We believe a man spoke to the offender in the alleyway following the assault and it may be that he saw the offence took place. If this was you, we would very much like to hear from you.”
Anyone with information can call police on 0161 8561812 or 0161 8561891 or Crimestoppers, anonymously, on 0800 555111.
9:02PM BST 15 Jun 2013
Last weekend, Tony Brett, a Liberal Democrat councillor in Oxford and the city’s deputy lord mayor, found what he called a “disgraceful rabble” of people climbing on the city’s main war memorial — squashing, he said, the flowers that mourners had placed there, then trying to remove half of them altogether and “jeering” other visitors as they paid their respects.
That day, the memorial was supposed to be the scene of a wreath-laying by the far-Right, racist English Defence League. But none of the people laying flowers and being jeered bore any kind of EDL insignia and none of the wreaths had any kind of card or message from the group.
Neither Mr Brett, nor a local newspaper reporter on the scene, saw any sign of any EDL presence.
All the aggro, Mr Brett said — he called it the “hate” — came from the self-appointed opponents of bigotry, a group called Unite Against Fascism (UAF). UAF’s response was to start an online petition saying that merely by criticising them Mr Brett had proved himself an EDL patsy, “not a fit representative for Oxford’s wonderful and multi-ethnic community”, and must resign immediately.
“It seemed to me they were doing exactly the kind of thing they were supposed to be protesting against,” said Mr Brett. “I will absolutely not support any hint of racism, Islamophobia or any other form of hate, be it from the EDL or any other group. That day I saw it from another group.”
The Oxford branch of UAF said its members climbed on the memorial at the request of a photographer. “The EDL’s use of war memorials is an offence to all those who died fighting fascism,” it said in a statement. “Mr Brett has given support to an event designed to boost the credibility of a fascist organisation.”
UAF, 10 years old this year, is one of Britain’s most prominent anti-fascist organisations. It has received hundreds of thousands of pounds from the biggest trade unions, and support from dozens of mainstream politicians. Its vice-chairmen include Christine Blower, the general secretary of the National Union of Teachers, and Hugh Lanning, the deputy general secretary of the PCS civil service union.
Even David Cameron, when a backbench MP, signed its founding statement. It has avoided substantial scrutiny because, as in the case of Mr Brett, anyone who criticises it risks being smeared as an ally of the vile groups it opposes.
Of course, few causes can be more deserving than resistance to the EDL and British National Party. But the uncomfortable truth about UAF is that it contains more than a trace of fascism itself. It specialises, as seen in Oxford, in organising counter-demonstrations to any activity, or anticipated activity, by the far Right.
Unfortunately, UAF’s counter-demonstrations often seem to cause as much, if not more, trouble than those by the EDL and BNP.
Since the murder of Drummer Lee Rigby last month, there have reportedly been at least 107 arrests during BNP, EDL and UAF demonstrations. At least 69 of those arrested, just under two thirds, were anti-fascist demonstrators, at least 58 of them UAF.
Weyman Bennett, UAF’s secretary, said none of the 58, all arrested on an anti-BNP counter-demo in Westminster two weeks ago, had so far been charged. “They haven’t done anything,” he said.
The arrests came after UAF demonstrators tried to prevent BNP supporters from reaching the Cenotaph and refused to stay in their allocated protest space. Video footage showed a BNP supporter being attacked by some UAF demonstrators, suffering cuts to his face.
“Our view is more complicated than saying we just want confrontation,” said Mr Bennett. “When racists organise, you can’t wait until they become a large and unstoppable force. You have to show there’s more of you than there are of them and you have to show they’re confronted by people of different races holding hands.”
In 2010 UAF’s then national officer, Martin Smith, was given a 12-month community order after being convicted of assaulting a police officer on a demonstration. He remained in his post, insisting his conviction was an “outrageous attack on the right to protest against fascists”.
A senior UAF official has recently been accused of rape and sexual assault by two women from the Socialist Workers’ Party, in which he was also an official. The man, who cannot be named for legal reasons, has given up both posts but continues to take part in UAF protests and activities, including as recently as last week.
Prominent campaigners such as the gay rights activist Peter Tatchell accuse UAF of a selective approach to bigotry. “UAF commendably opposes the BNP and EDL but it is silent about Islamist fascists who promote anti-Semitism, homophobia, sexism and sectarian attacks on non-extremist Muslims,” said Mr Tatchell. “It is time the UAF campaigned against the Islamist far Right as well as against the EDL and BNP far Right.”
One reason why UAF will not campaign against Islamist extremists is that one of its own vice-chairmen, Azad Ali, is one. As well as his UAF role, which he took up last year, Mr Ali is community affairs coordinator of the Islamic Forum of Europe, a Muslim supremacist group dedicated to changing “the very infrastructure of society, its institutions, its culture, its political order and its creed from ignorance to Islam”.
Mr Ali has written on his blog of his “love” for Anwar al-Awlaki, the al-Qaeda cleric closely linked to many terrorist plots, including the September 11 attacks, and used to attend talks by Abu Qatada, the extremist cleric whom Britain is seeking to deport.
He has described al-Qaeda as a “myth” and denied that the Mumbai attacks were terrorism. On his blog, he also advocated the killing of British troops in Iraq. He sued a newspaper for reporting that he had said this, and lost.
Filmed by an undercover reporter for The Sunday Telegraph and Channel 4’s Dispatches, he said: “Democracy, if it means at the expense of not implementing the sharia, of course no one agrees with that.” Mr Bennett defended Mr Ali, saying: “He’s done valuable work for us. I’ve heard him speak on many occasions and he’s never said any of the things he’s been accused of.”
One of the alleged killers of Drummer Rigby, Michael Adebolajo, also spoke on the margins of a UAF rally in Harrow in 2009. Video footage shows him addressing a crowd at the event. Mr Bennett said that he was not on the platform, nor was he an official speaker.
There are effective ways to defeat the far Right — the group Searchlight has inflicted significant damage through voter-registration drives, door-to-door campaigning and precise, well-researched intelligence driving a dagger into its real weaknesses.
And there are ineffective ways. The racist Right thrives on two things: publicity and the politics of victimhood. The mob outrage practised by UAF gets the fascists more of both. As with the “anti-Islamophobia” monitoring group Tell Mama, which has lost its government funding after overhyping the nature of anti-Muslim hostility, there is a sense that the racists and their opponents need each other.
Mr Brett added: “It just antagonises the situation. The way to deal with this stuff is not to fight it aggressively. That’s exactly what they want you to do.”
Nobody has denied that there has been an increase in tensions since the murder of Drummer Rigby.
The danger is that by exaggerating it, and by the politics of confrontation, supposedly anti-racist groups fuel the very division, polarisation and tension they are supposed to counter.
Today in Ashton has been nothing short of a shambolic mess. This is no fault of the local organisers who have worked tirelessly to sort this out. Due to this we are announcing that the North West Infidels and Casuals United will be holding a demo in Ashton on 6th July. See ya there.
NFSE
ABUSE: The TA barracks on Deepdale Road, Preston
A disgusted father has told how a group of young air cadets were racially abused by a gang who waited outside Preston’s Territorial Army barracks.
Police were called on Tuesday night after one cadet was allegedly chased towards Preston north End’s stadium from Kimberley Barracks on Deepdale Road, following a training session.
On Tuesdays the barracks is used by the 341 Air Squadron, but it is also understood a group of army cadets may have been verbally abused on the same evening.
Today, Det Chf Insp Ian Dawson of Preston Police said there were no security concerns at the barracks and said it was a minor incident.
He said: “ we are aware of a minor incident at the barracks and believe it was isolated. We have close links with the barracks and are working,through our diversity team, to establish who the youths involved are.
“Preston has a diverse community and we are not aware of any problems.
“We are working closely with community leaders.
He added: “We understand the cadets had played football on the park before returning to the barracks. A short time later, as they left the barracks, they were shouted at by a group.
“We have assessed our reassurance response to the incident.
A concerned parent, who did not wish to be named, said: “ A group of Asian youths were outside the barracks and were abusing the cadets as they came out.
“One ran back inside and had to get a sergeant’s help.
“Members of the TA who are stationed at the barracks also came out.
“My stepdaughter is in the air cadets and we worry about her walking home as it is.
“The youngsters were advised not to walk home alone.
“My stepdaughter had been shouted at once before as she left the barracks. It does not put us off sending her, but it frightens me.”
Coun Terry Cartwright, who represents the area, said: “ It is disturbing, particularly in the wake of what happened at Woolwich Barracks in London.
These young cadets are trying to make something of themselves.”
Preston community worker Ali Amla said: “ It is totally unacceptable behaviour for these young people to have been treated like that.
“The cadets are there to volunteer their time very positively and do something very positive in the community.”
A spokesman for Fulwood Barracks confirmed the air cadets had been training in the barracks at the time.
An Air Cadet spokesman was not available for comment.
Nice flag
Further to our previous article about snotty nosed gimps who cant stop telling tales we’ve found him, its “Gary Hastings” the troll. Got some advice for you Gaz, save yourself the trouble of screenshotting this blog because every police force in the country is glued to it, we know that as they ring our bloggers from time to time to ask us to remove things they aren’t happy with, and they told us they see it as a good reference as the demo details we post up are always accurate.
I bet when the desk Sergeant sees snotty nosed Gaz coming hes like “shit here he is again” and hiding under the desk so he doesn’t have to look through another load of boring screenshots which are only illegal inside Gaz’s little Communist head. He then says “ok Sir, I’ll pass them on to our race hate team” then drops them quietly into the recycling bin as little Gaz peddles off on his environmentally friendly bicycle with a smug grin on his chops, thinking hes “smashed the fash” lol
You’ll have to get up earlier if you wanna get any of us arrested son, we never post anything racist or threatening so you’re pretty much f@cked. Twice you’ve tried to have this blog removed and twice we’ve had it reviewed and they’ve said its fine. Its great being us. A quiet day on here is 15,000 hits. You cant silence us. I’m going to write “must try harder” on your report card sonny Jim.
See you in Ashton Saturday. Oh no sorry, you are agorophobic aren’t you?
NFSE
Katie
utter utter gimp
This is Adam Conlon. A Commie. The kind of person who will stand behind police screaming at people while they try to pay their respects to a fallen soldier. He says the EDL are “racist and racist” thats the same as being “double racist” I expect. He takes the piss out of peoples spelling but cant spell for shit himself. Here he says anyone worth their salt should be out smashing the EDL. He cant make it though, hes working. As a pie taster for Greggs.
Katie
pfffffttttt
The only thing hes capable of smashing is a box of custard slices
The suspects caught on CCTV were dressed in jeans and dark tops and pushing a light-coloured bikeCCTV images have been released showing two male suspects wanted by police in connection with the fatal stabbing of a man in Luton.
Jordan Maguire, 20, was found on 26 May at his home in Thrales Close and died later at Luton and Dunstable hospital.
A man, 22, and a girl, 16, were arrested and released on bail last week.
His mother Julie, 46, said: “What’s happened has killed us, it’s killed the community.”
The suspects caught on CCTV were dressed in jeans and dark tops and pushing a light-coloured bike.
Jordan Maguire was described by his mother as “well loved”Mrs Maguire, who had lived in the house with her son for 10 years, said he was “a well-loved, well-known and well-groomed young man who wouldn’t hurt a fly”.
She said: “Everybody loved Jordan, everybody knew him, he was always smiling. He was so loved and if he was in your life then your life was blessed.
“What’s happened has killed us, it’s killed the community, there is no laughter any more. It’s broken us. He was the only man in my life and I loved him to the sky and back.”
Officers said they had not traced the murder weapon or established the motive for the killing.
They revealed the man who had been pushing the bike and the 22-year-old man, who had a dog, knocked at the front door of Mr Maguire’s home.
The 16-year-old girl remained outside with the dog and the other man also stayed outside acting as a “lookout”.
Police said Mr Maguire let the two men into his home which is significant because he never let anyone in he did not know.
Det Ch Insp Steve Collin, of the Bedfordshire, Cambridgeshire and Hertfordshire Major Crime Unit, said: “I would urge anyone who may have seen the incident itself or anyone with even the smallest piece of information to come forward.”
After the video was released yesterday of the Muslim gang attacking those teenagers in Ashton and assaulting girls, the kind of attack we see in this country on a regular basis, yet are always told is an “isolated” incident, there was large scale disorder there last night. As usual the media and local police were silent about it. The facts are large numbers of Muslims and local white youths had met for a pre-arranged fight, police had found out and there was carnage. The Muslim gang had changed from the original attackers who were youngsters, to older men in their 20s and 30s, obviously out for an easy night of bashing white kids.
Enoch Powell’s prophecy is coming true on our streets. There is no integration here, the multicultural experiment has failed badly. There is no chance in hell that our spineless, “pc” Government is ever going to do anything about it, this situation is going to get worse and worse. Last night the teenage girl who dared to film the vicious bus shelter attack was subjected to hours of abuse and threats from Muslims on her facebook wall, with adults telling her to kill herself and threatening her with rape and death. A religion of peace? No-ones buying that any more.
Our soldiers are being butchered in the streets, we are at constant threat of bomb attacks, we’ve got grooming gangs raping our children in every town and city and vicious racial attacks on our people which the police, CPS and Government, with their media puppets are happy to turn a blind eye to.
Not far from Ashton, in Oldham, Gavin Hopley was kicked to death by Muslims for walking through the wrong area. In Hyde Danny Stringer was nearly kicked to death and police refused to class it as racially motivated. These attacks have happened all over Greater Manchester and all over Britain. They are NEVER classed as racial by the police, who are terrified of upsetting the feelings of “minorities”.
If a white person attacks one of them though, police immediately say “we are treating it as racially motivated” and the media circus swings into screaming racism to make white people feel guilty and shit about themselves. This is why you see idiots on twitter saying “the EDL make me ashamed to be white”. The brainwashing is complete on these clowns.
Anyway, the EDL have announced a demo in Ashton this coming Saturday at 2pm and a lot of non-EDL lads in the area are fuming behind the scenes. Where will it all end Carty la? Where will it end?
All we ask is that the police treat these thugs the same as any others and deal with them, but with police officers being sent on racial sensitivity classes, and senior officers attending “Common Purpose” seminars to become politically correct, there is no chance. Any more disorder in Ashton, and we just know that even if the Muslims are rioting, it will be the whites who feel the full force of being battered and arrested by police, its just easier to let the Muslims carry on and take it out on whitey.
We will update further news as we get it. Here’s a pic of one of the bus shelter attackers Zeshan Mahmood. Looks peaceful doesn’t he?
NFSE
Katie
A text the police sent to parents yesterday
Written byBY JAMES BRINDLE
webpicPOLICE are appealing for witnesses after a ‘vicious and unprovoked’ daylight attack outside a school in Burton left the victim needing surgery.
The incident happened at around 4.30pm on Wednesday outside Grange Community School, in Grange Street, when the victim was approached by three men.
Police said that one of the men assaulted the victim by punching him in the face, causing him to fall to floor.
The victim, a 57-year-old man from Burton, was initially taken to Queen’s Hospital in Burton with facial injuries.
However, the injuries were so severe that he was later transferred to the Royal Derby Hospital for surgery on his jaw.
Inspector Steve Maskrey from Burton police told the Mail: “It was an unusual crime to occur at that time of day outside a school.
“It appears to be an unprovoked attack and there were certainly not any similar incidents in the area that this can be linked to.”
The offenders are described as Asian and aged between 16 and 25.
The one who punched the victim is described as having a long face with a sharp chin and was 5ft 6ins tall with a slim build.
He wore wrap around ‘men in black’ style sunglasses, a navy baseball cap, a baggy loose fitting navy sweater and similar style baggy jeans.
One of the other men wore dark clothing while the third wore a brightly coloured baggy top.
Insp Maskrey urged any members of the community who witnessed the attack to contact DC Victoria Wilde on 101, quoting incident number 558 of June 5.
Alternatively, they can contact Crimestoppers, anonymously, on 0800 555111.
11 June 2013 Last updated at 12:55
Drummer Rigby was killed in Woolwich, south-east London on 22 MayA man accused of making offensive comments on a social media website following the killing of Drummer Lee Rigby has had his case dropped.
Mohammed Mazar, 19, of Balmoral Drive, Woking, Surrey, was charged with improper use of the public electronic communications network.
He was due to appear before Guildford magistrates on Tuesday but a prosecutor said his case had been “discontinued”.
Police charged several people over comments on websites after the death.
Incidents were reported to police across England with arrests also taking place in Lincoln, Bristol and Hastings.
On Friday, a 23-year-old woman from Hampshire who posted an offensive message on Facebook was sentenced to eight weeks imprisonment, suspended for eight months.
Old Bill are sending this text round in Ashton Under Lyne since people started circulating the video of the muslims attacking those lads and assaulting girls in the bus stop. So if anyones planning anything I’d steer clear if I was you.
Kate
Muslim gangs out for trouble tonight
Saturday June 22nd North West Frontline Firm demo Burnley
Saturday 27th June Scottish Defence League demo Aberdeen
Saturday July 27th Skegness halal murder house demo see - https://www.facebook.com/events/580811711959782/
Saturday July 27th EVF Demo Croydon (watch video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_ZOAdDbovE8#!
Saturday August 10th Casuals United Justice for the 60 grooming victims demo Blackpool
To: patrick.mcloughlin.mp@parliament.uk
Subject:
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 12:07:14 +0100
I would like you to ask the ministry of justice why Anjem Choudary is still a free man walking our streets with police protection when he blatantly on a daily basis is inciting racial tension and is behaving in a manner that is likely to cause a breach of the peace and stir up hate crimes. His latest outbust being published in The Sun newspaper today
Anjem Choudary clearly promotes and defends acts of terrorism. In the recent case of the horrific murder of Lee Rigby one of the accused Michael Adebolajo has links to Anjem Choudary. Looking at past cases that the media have highlighted regarding Anjem Choudary it is plainly obvious that he his radicalising his followers into supporting and carrying out acts of terror in the name of extreme islam
Anjem Choudary and his followers are a clear terror threat to our National Security so it beggars belief that this man is allowed by our Government and Security forces to get away with these actions
With Regards
The massive police operation to keep English Defence League and anti-fascist demonstrators apart will be at least £500,000, The Star can reveal.
Some 1,000 officers from 10 different forces were deployed in Sheffield city centre on Saturday as more than 500 EDL supporters and the group’s leader, Tommy Robinson, came to lay a wreath at the war memorial.
They were met by a similar number of anti-fascist demonstrators.
The bill for the operation was confirmed by South Yorkshire Police and Crime Commissioner Shaun Wright.
He also revealed that two officers received minor injuries.
One of them was hurt when trying to keep the EDL and rival Muslim protesters apart in scuffles in streets off West Street, after the wreath had been laid.
Five arrests were made on suspicion of assault and public order offences.
The far right EDL, which tried to lay the wreath the previous weekend but was stopped by protesters, said it wanted to make the gesture ‘in memory’ of soldier Lee Rigby, who was murdered by Islamic extremists.
Mr Wright said that Saturday ‘went brilliantly from a policing perspective’.
But he said that the cost was an unwanted expense at a time when budgets are stretched, and that the protests proved ‘incredibly disruptive to the city centre’.
Mr Wright said: “From a policing perspective, clearly plans were put in place which went brilliantly.
“Unfortunately, two officers suffered minor injuries, one suffering dehydration and another being hurt when trying to hold back protesters.”
He added: “Clearly, as a policing operation it was successful but it was very expensive and money I would rather spend elsewhere.”
Asked if the cost was around half a million pounds, he said: “I wouldn’t disagree with that.”
Mr Wright criticised a break-away group of more than 100 Muslim and anti-fascist protesters who ran up Division Street to confront EDL members being held by police in the West Street area.
The Muslim and anti-fascist group, some of whom were chanting in Arabic and waving placards, was eventually stopped by lines of officers and scuffles broke out.
EDL members also tried repeatedly to break away down side streets but were held back by hundreds of police.
Mr Wright said: “The day was incredibly disruptive to the city centre.
“The anti-fascist break-away group was not helpful and had to be coralled to allow dispersal of the EDL and prevent more trouble.”
He said ‘individuals trying to use the event for their own purposes’ were to blame, not Unite Against Fascism organisers.
Mr Wright said that full analysis would take place of the police operation to see if any lessons could be learned for future policing of large demonstrations.
Paul Scarrott, secretary for Sheffield UAF, said: “Thousands of people stood united to proudly celebrate and defend multicultural Sheffield.
“By contrast the EDL failed in their attempt to bring division and hate with their racist chants of ‘Allah is a paedophile’.”
English Defence League members were silent and made Churchill ‘V’ signs when entering Barker’s Pool but later chanted anti-Muslim and police slogans on West Street, where they were held by police for three hours.
Scott Walker, EDL Yorkshire regional organiser, said: “I think the event went really well. The UAF members were shouting and bawling at us when we held a silence to Drummer Rigby after laying our wreath.
“The police seemed to have lost control at one point when the group of UAF and Muslims ran towards us.
“The cost of the protest is the price of a democracy. If the UAF had let us lay flowers the previous week, we wouldn’t have come back.”
Sheffield Central Labour MP Paul Blomfield said he did not claim EDL members made Nazi salutes but commented on The Star’s video footage which appears to show some of the group making the gesture in Barker’s Pool.
The EDL denies members made Nazi salutes and said they were making Churchill ‘V’ signs in defiance of anti-fascist demonstrators.
■ Watch the video of the EDL protest at http://www.thestar.co.uk
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Political and religious leaders have praised members of the public who attended a One Sheffield, Many Cultures’ multi-cultural celebration.
The event was held in the Peace Gardens at the same time as the English Defence League wreath laying and Unite Against Fascism protest.
Speakers at the celebration included Sheffield Central MP Paul Blomfield, Sheffield Council leader Coun Julie Dore, Bishop of Sheffield, Dr Steven Croft, and Abdool Gooljar, Sheffield representative for the Islamic Society of Britain.
Around 2,000 people attended.
Mr Blomfield MP said: “The thousands of local people who came together to celebrate the strength and vibrancy of our multi-cultural city sent a clear message to the EDL – your attempt to promote hatred and division isn’t welcome in Sheffield.”
Coun John Campbell, chairman of the One Sheffield, Many Cultures festival, said: “People of all ages all cultures joined a wonderful celebration of music and dance united as one community – our strength is we will not be divided.”
Mr Gooljar added: “We say no to racism and fascism. Together we Sheffielders – those of faith and none – come to celebrate the richness of diversity, and enjoy the peace and harmony of our great city.”
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WHAT YOU SAID ON THE WEB:
The Star’s coverage of the English Defence League wreath laying and Unite Against Fascism protest sparked a heated debate among readers.
More than 50,000 people viewed stories and video coverage of Saturday’s event on our website.
Kevin Stainton said: “The media say EDL are the problem, the people of the UK are realising that UAF are hell bent on starting the trouble every time.
“Not surprising really as the UAF is Government funded and supported.”
Big Mart said: “The EDL have a right to their opinion and they have a right to their voice. Have the EDL ever crashed planes into buildings? Have they bombed trains and buses in London? Did they try to behead a young man in the street for wearing a shirt supporting help for injured servicemen?”
But another reader, Moanytony, said: “To all the EDL and UAF supporters. You’re all just a bunch of clichés. Extremists from both ends of the political spectrum who don’t represent the majority view.
“By the way, who are the English – and shouldn’t that be the British? How many different migrant races are in our make-up historically?”
Sheff Infidels, who was among the EDL members at the war memorial, posted: “Some of you traitorous left wing rats make me sick.
“We chanted your not English anymore to the white English tramps that booed, jeered and hurled insults at us during our silence.
“UAF and the Muslims tried attacking us from all angles. The UAF chanted we would be dead if it wasn’t for the police.
“Are they having a laugh? Those skinny little student anarchist hippie type rats would have been steam-rollered had we been let through, as for the Muslims they only kick off when tooled up.
“We are fighting back because enough is enough.”
But Katherine Newman, of Crosspool, said: “The EDL say they are not racist but I don’t think anyone really believes them. They pick on the vulnerable and fearful.
“My husband is from the West Indies and he came over when he was 18 years old. They were brought up to believe that England was the mother country and that they would be welcomed. Instead, they were dumped on from a great height.
“The people who came here, mostly Jamaicans and Asian, did a lot of dirty jobs that the English did not want to do and had to put up with a lot of hostility.
“If you are against foreigners coming in, you have the same ideology as Hitler. A lot of these foreigners fought alongside the British in the wars.”
